Life Extension Values Clarification Survey

May/June 2007 Comments

Num Comments Date
1700 Very odd. At no time have I ever really been asked these questions. Very interesting. Yet, I am comfortable with the idea of dying one day and would hope the process of dying would be complete at the time, not prolonged, so I don't really understand why anyone would be interested in cryonics, unless they were afraid of dying. I would have greater fear of burning or freezing, than of dying. 2007-05-03 09:38:14
1702 I KNOW LITTLE ABOUT THIS--BUT I DO BELIVE WE WILL HAVE A SOCIET OF OL SOULS SO TO SPEAK-THRU NUTRITON IMPROVMENT ETC AND SCIENCE---DEVELOPING AREAS OF THE BRAIN WE DONT USE COULD HELP US LIVE LONGET BY BEING ABLE TO HEAL OUR OWN BODIES WITH OUR OWN ENERGY---LIKE REMOTE HEALING ON EACH OTHER SHOULD BE ACCEPTED AND PURSUED AS NATURAL---OUR WORLD AT THIS POINT IS NOT THAT ACCEPTING OF A LOT OF THESE ABILITIES WE AS HUMANS HAVE LOCKED UP IN OUR MIND AND BRAIN--WANDAJFMS@YAHOO.COM 2007-05-03 18:19:24
1707 A very fair and well worded survey. 2007-05-06 16:38:04
1717 I think life extension is great if you can live a healthy productive life by helping yourself and helping others. 2007-05-08 19:45:37
1721 I am actually looking for "Immortality" rather than freezing. 2007-05-11 06:19:34
1723 This is not a "survey" at all, but a thinly disguised mechanism to sollicit possible subjects... WW 2007-05-11 16:34:43
1728 Life is a continuum it cannot be enjoiable if it is a stop and go process. 2007-05-13 01:04:40
1741 I believe that in the future humans will live for exorbitantly long amounts of time, but population will no longer become a problem because by then we will have populated other plantets. 2007-05-16 21:18:51
1749 I am a 44 year old male. I have been passionately interested in life extension for the past five years or so since reaching middle age. I work out, supplement aggressively, and practice CR (although I have had to temporarily cut back on the CR and gain some weight since my BMI dipped too far into the underweight category in a way that exceeded my comfort level). This survey gave me a chance to think through more of the issues surrounding life extension and where I stand on them. I am very interested in the survey results concerning the connection between religious identification and attitudes toward life extension. I answered "Pagan" for my religious affiliation although I could just as well have put "Atheist" since I believe that all of the gods are creations of the collective human imagination. My sense is that most transhumanists and others pursuing life extension are skeptics when it comes to deities and the afterlife. In the end, it is up to us to control our own destiny and we are responsible for making our own heaven or hell in the here and now. 2007-05-19 00:00:09
1752 dying is part of living. the only thing one must do is die. the odds here are infinitely in deaths favor. the fact that the earth and other planets are spherical, that night turns into day which in turn turns into night, that the four seasons come and go around, indicate some sort of experience beyond death to me. 2007-05-20 05:46:36
1753 If the natural human lifespan were longer, we would not try to shorten it to what it is now. Why do we think some injuries ought to be repaired and not others? Here's how it works: "Doctor, doctor, my mitochondria are in tatters and I have a severe collagen deficiency". "Sorry pal, you're ninety -- you deserve it". 2007-05-20 07:52:11
1762 If the world is a computer simulation, a programmer outside the system may be equivalent (for all intent and purposes) to 'God'. Alternatively, the world may be a hologram, analogous to Platonic Forms, with or without 'God(s)', If 'Gods' are tantamount to those 'in the know', mortals are mere creatures who do not know yesterday from tomorrow. 2007-05-23 11:50:36
1764 I don't have any religious affiliation, but i am interested in the exploration of spirituality without have a firm, set belief. Cryogenics do not interest me. I am interested in extending youthfullness as naturally and healthily as possible, for as long as it seems worthwhile - the emphasis being on quality of life. 2007-05-23 19:14:07
1765 I think that the only real proven way to dramatically increase life span is through a calorie restrictive diet. Anti-aging research is continuing, but the efficacy of nutritional supplements in this area is overblown. Don 't sell the farm to pad the pockets of hokey supplement salesman. Taking vitamins is good, but the research in many other areas is sparse. Before taking anything look at objective third-party sources. Don't be fooled by alluring promises. Anti-aging medicine is still in its infancy, but hucksters are not. 2007-05-23 21:44:04
1767 I am more interested in medical intervention to halt and/or reverse the ageing process. The different rates of ageing of species leads me to believe it is a genetically based process which can be discovered and slowed or stopped. 2007-05-26 08:36:15
1773 Reawakening oneself into one's own body (most likely, a 70-80 year-old body) many years into the future would not be desirable (or even achievable, given the amount of tissue damage there would probably be, and the reawakened patient would probably die from, say, Alzheimer's or another disease brought on by old age). However, what would be interesting would be a way of taking all the (frozen) brain information and neuron connections and putting this information into a child's (or young adult's) brain. This would probably have to be done with a braindead recipient in order to be ethically acceptable in today's society (or it could be an alternative to the death penalty...) Maybe, though, given the trend of processing power of today's computers, one could move data from 'dead' brains to a computer (as you call it, 'uploading'); this would probably have to be done with a freshly-dead patient, but in a few (=30) years' time, computing power will have moved on enough to simulate all the neurons of an entire human brain. I shall stop rambling now. Thanks for the informative website. 2007-05-30 05:16:57
1775 I do not believe in this at the scientific level. I consider that even if it was possible it would be a threat for mankind if it was available for everybody. It would result in more selfishness (at the social level), less fertility, poorer genetic pool, and weaker adaptability of the species to any evolution of the environment. As stupid and absurd as trying to massive cloning. Now if it is reserved to an ellit, then it might not influence too much the evolution of the species, but it would be a selfish and vain thing. People who would be tempted by this are everything but wise and psychologically mature. 2007-05-30 20:14:15
1778 This "survey" is not a survey at all but a thinly discised plan to find possible cryonics folks. What a waste of my time! With all of your science about the chemical processes going on in just one cell of the body, I would certainly think you would KNOW that there most definately is a god - and this god has reveiled Himself to us in the form of His Son Jesus. In your quest for knowledge you have side-steped the source of knowledge. And I was once one of your kind! I used to teach evolution in a public high school (University City High School). And I also marveled at the complexity of life and of the expanding universe and of the sub-atomic world of m and p orbitals and of speed of gravity and of character of light itself. All of this was SPOKEN into existence by the word of God! What a mighty God we serve! Get into the Book, son. The only book God ever wrote. You need Him - He does not need you. A life spent not knowing God is a life wasted. 2007-05-31 11:37:31
1780 I do not know much about cryogenics, though I believe doing something of the sort would freeze some one in their present state to be awakened as they were in the future. Would it really be possible to age under a cryogenic sleep? 2007-05-31 20:22:26
1784 When whole each is God... 2007-06-02 13:51:19
1785 I am optimistic that life extension will be increasingly successful in the 21st Century, and that some of us will see the 22nd Century. In fact, life extension with rejuvenation is likely to triumph eventually in a way that will be quite dramatic. It is in demand and well financed, and many solutions have been found to key problems in the mechanisms of aging arena. - Jim Green http://greenwdks.tripod.com/longevity.html . 2007-06-02 15:10:55
1786 Nutshell, I see *no* problem with life extension, cryonics, etc. from a Catholic perspective, none whatsoever. My answers reflect a skepticism about how quickly we will make progress on these problems. If the survey asked about longer time frames (it asks whether we'll have a bead on these things in 100 years) I'd feel much more comfortable with sundry problems being solved (e.g. freezing damage, life span, overall health). I *do* however think there's a maximum organism potential of the human life. Hell or high water, I can't imagine humans living longer than 150 years or so, after than, we'll require cloned bodies, cybernetic solutions, etc... 2007-06-02 23:24:17
1792 Science is the only viable religion. 2007-06-05 20:24:19
1799 Come and see my play about this subject! It is called "The Future". Website: senexate.com 2007-06-08 01:41:00
1801 Self indulgent waste of money and resources. 2007-06-09 04:54:01
1813 I think only being a vampire would make immortality interesting and enjoyable. 2007-06-11 06:01:43
1822 1 Parents' bad health has reduced my level of enjoyment. Very sad to see them fail. DO NOT send email. I will lock up the server that sends email related to the survey. 2007-06-14 23:27:14
1831 Do not have much understanding in this area, however intrested in learning more. congratulations on a very informative site. Cheers 2007-06-18 06:30:42
1836 Educational, informative, intriguing site and survey as always Ben--thanks :-). ShannonVyff@yahoo.com I'll be spending 10 times the amount I spend on my cryonic's arrangements--on various non-profit groups during my life-time at my current middle class U.S. income level (and significantly more if I ever become more wealthy). I'm a member and religious educator for my local Austin TX, First Unitarian Universalist Church where we teach the tenets of all the world's religions, and our teens score higher on SAT's than other religions in the self-reporting section. I joined that church to give my own children an educational advantage along with all the other travel and teaching I give them outside of their school environment. I contribute to many non-profits. I'm also a member of the Methuselah Foundation's 300. One of the authors of "The Scientific Conquest of Death". The author of the science fiction adventure story for kids and families "21st Century Kids" that teaches futurist issues through an page-turning first person accounting of a possible future based on science we see as possible now. I personally think that if humans survive with the same technological advancements that we've had the past 500 years-- for 500 more--then we will end aging and people will be re-animated from cryonics. We have many problems to work on--billions today (07) do not have enough to eat, we have extremes of wealth-- many human rights violations-- we need to live longer to solve some of the world's problems. For whatever religion you follow, if cryonics did work, and you are given more time in the future--you can do more good for that religion. If aging is ended in our life-time, we can all contribute more to helping end inequality. Good luck to us all ;-) and best wishes to each who reads this--to your own journeys. :-) 2007-06-19 22:58:16
1840 Life without reproductive capacity, full brain function (ie:alzheimers, senility) or normal body functions is not desirable...give the new comers a shot at the worlds wealth.....we need new people...not "old farts" 2007-06-22 10:43:58
1842 (8) How do you think quality of life in 100 years will compare to quality of life today? Quality of life for whom? The global average? The national average of my country? The average of my geographic location? The average of the most fortunate 10% of humanity? This question is ambiguous to the point of being unanswerable. The same number of people live in squalor today as did 1000 years ago, if not more. The difference is that many more also live in opulence. The AVERAGE quality of life has only increased by virtue of the profoundly disproportionate quality of life enjoyed by the highest elite. If you remove them from the consideration, quality of life has not changed significantly in the span of recorded history. 2007-06-23 22:18:09
1851 religion has nothing to do with age extenstion. Every body loves to live healthy happy lifefor ever. You need to change the type of questiong in this Survey. Hope some day future generation will find a remedy for aging. Good luck with your efforts 2007-06-26 12:19:48
1853 Good health information 2007-06-26 21:17:58
1865 It would be a dream come true to be able to live long (or indefinitely) if life would continue to be enjoyable. Even an average person could become accomplished at a skill or art (i.e., piano) if given enough time. For those who love school, they could obtain degree after degree because time would no longer be an obstacle, especially for those who must work to put themselves through school like I did. 2007-06-29 21:52:40
1866 This site, this survey and your writings are brilliant. They are very well researched and presented in a very clear and understandable manner. I didn't understand question 10 though. I think people want to live longer because they are greedy. They don't understand the ultimate meaninglessness of life and the fact that death itself defines the value of life and without it life would be boring (I believe in aspects of absurdism). I'm a scientist and while it's naive to think anything is impossible I think the devastatingly major hindrance on ever acheiving successful cryonics "re-birth" is ice crystals. Water is 90% of the body (don't quote me on that) and the sharpness of ice crystals at the molecular level would rip apart all the biologic membranes and destroy the body. I'm not knowledgeable enough to say that for certainty, but that's my view on what would happen. Again, top site, brilliant work. Contact me at killerkoz17@hotmail.com if you would like to comment on my comments. I'd be interested in your opinion. Rob 2007-06-29 22:49:19
1868 i would like to learn more about cryonics! 2007-06-30 11:15:53